I know some people that say they are Christian Wicca. They said that they go to church and believe in Jesus and God, but practice witchcraft. They said that Wicca is not a religion but a practice. My question is, how can you be a Christian Wicca? Sometimes it makes me angry seeing people mixing paganism with Christianity without reading the Bible. I don't hate the person, I hate the sin that their doing.
It's Christians wanting to believe in with craft so that they can better their lives and get everything they want. Also, Paganism and Wiccan are two different things, don't be angry about people mixing religions if you can't keep them straight yourself.
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Just because you believe in God and Jesus doesn't mean your Christians Catholics believe in both but pray to the virgin Mary. Which is incorrect. You can't be a Christian Wicca.
"it makes me angry seeing people mixing paganism with Christianity" - The catholic church has been doing that since day one.
Halos - mixing pagan sun gods with Jesus.
Saints - basically a form of polytheism. - most people in Italy pray to the Mary before Jesus or god.
Holy Days - all of them were tied to a pagan ritual or holiday to bring over the pagans.
- and the list can go on.
The point is people mix and match religions and culture. Whats Calvinism if Calvin didn't disagree and go his own way from the catholic church? Whats the catholic church if it did not follow peter instead of Paul? After the first generation of believers a religion starts to change. The only true Christians were the people who followed Jesus while he was alive (if he ever lived).
Whoever says Wicca is not a religion but a practice is a moron. Wicca is most definitely a religion. You can't mix two religions and be either one of them. It doesn't work out to be either one. I suppose you can call yourself whatever you wish, but when you use terms already associated with specific faiths and beliefs then you really do them a disservice by representing what they are when you are neither.
I may be one of the few Wiccans to outright admit this feeling, but I don't quite care for the mixing of the faiths either. As much as some of you Christians think it is a bad thing to mix your beliefs with those of Wicca...I'm not too thrilled about the idea of taking something as beautiful as Wicca and injecting the sadistic Abrahamic god into it. There's a lot of issues with Christianity that don't make it a harmonious faith to mix with others. I'd rather it not be mixed with Wicca. ...but I guess...to each their own.
Why is it so difficult for you to believe that someone can be both a believer in God and not practice a conventional religion? God is more real to me now than he ever was when I was a part of man made religion. What makes you think that Pagan religions do not believe in God. Or is it that we don't believe in the way you want? Being both is easy.
There's a difference between mixing Wicca & Christianity (two religions) and witchcraft & Christianity (a religion and a craft).
Wicca and Christianity, in my opinion, are completely incompatible with each other. The concept of sin is absent in Wicca, the concept of duality is not present in Christianity, Wicca is polytheistic, Christianity is monotheistic ... the list goes on. When it comes down to it, trying to combine the two is being disrespectful to both religions and their gods. If people are justifying mixing the two by saying that Wicca is a practice, they don't know what they're talking about.
On the other hand, witchcraft can be practiced by Christians (or anyone for that matter as it's not a religious activity). However, it's down to that individual to decide whether or not that sort of thing is keeping to their Christian beliefs or not.
Basically, people can be whoever they want to be and mix whatever beliefs they themselves are comfortable with. Unless Christians are going to start burning heretics at the stake again and you want to be in the cheering section, I suggest you tone it down. They probably can't get over the silly ignorant and sinful way you practice Christianity.
The Christianity you practice today is not the same Christianity which was practiced in 60AD and that was probably a lot different than Jesus Christ ever imagined it to be in his lifetime. Only god can judge where a persons heart is and how valid their beliefs are.
And finally let me remind you that much of what you view as christian has antique roots in paganism, including the concept of trinity, the savior god, and the 2 most important christian holidays aka Easter and Christmas. Before you start to blow your top about somebody mixing pagan beliefs with your "pure" version of Christianity, you should know a little more about the pagan history and origin of your "pure" belief.
People *can* mix whatever the want, but if what they end up with makes no sense, they should be prepared to admit it makes no sense...they should not expect people to take it seriously if it makes no sense.
I have several questions that no "Christian Wiccan" can answer about their faith. This leads me to the belief that combining them is not something one can do if they understand either.
Anyone who says Wicca isn't a religion is just wrong, period.
They are wrong. Wicca is a separate religion, it is not a practice. Witchcraft is a practice that can be incorporated into any religion, but witchcraft and Wicca are two different things. You can be a Christian witch, but you can't really be a Christian Wiccan. It all comes down to how loosely you interpret the Bible and how literally you take it. The Bible was never meant to be taken literally. The original writers knew that what they were writing was an exaggerated narrative of Jesus's life, but they also knew that the exaggerations would make it more memorable. As for the passages that specifically condemn witchcraft, those are examples of King James's mistranslations. The word should have been "poisoner", but King James wanted the Bible to openly condemn the pagan practices of his country (witchcraft is an Anglo-Saxon term that means "craft of the wise" and it was a shamanic practice in the old Anglo-Saxon tribes). A Christian follows the teachings of Christ, and a Christian witch thinks of the Bible as an allegorical account of Jesus's life and follows his teachings rather than King James's.
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They are right when they say that it is a practice not a religion, but they are also wrong, because it can be a region as well. One can follow Wicca principles in conducting witch craft and not be a pagan/Wicca. this person can be Christian and believe that a lot of the old christian rules are out dated (which they most definitely are) and don't tend to take the bible as a direct and literal translation (which again is correct, I believe that because of the change of the times it shouldn't be). These people realize that the meaning of the word "witch craft" now is much different than that of the bible. In the bible the term witch craft solely referring to black magic and doing harm to others, but now it means the craft of the earth" for a lack of a better phrase. they can still believe in god, Jesus and christian prayer and values while still taking the literal translation of the bible with a grain of salt. All that witch craft, or the practice of Wicca means is that they use energy transfer, meditation and the earth to help themselves and others generally in a non harmful, non selfish way. People who get involved in this type of practice generally feel connected to our earth and enjoy the beauty of weather, plants, animals and the changing of seasons, and are also many times active in the preservation of our beautiful home, earth. THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD AND JESUS! THIS SIMPLY MEANS THAT THEY ARE MORE OPEN MINDED THAN MOST OF THEIR RELIGION and usually more tolerant of others. These people have every right to practice Wicca, and still go to church without ridicule. This doesn't make them any less of a christian than you or your friends, it simply just means that they are smart enough to know the true definition of witch craft and how it differs from that written in the bible so very long ago, and they are smart enough to do research to find this out and not to be live everything in the bible literally.
I don't know much about Christianity, and that may lessen my opinion but I'll put it out there. It may be possible... bare with me... that some people feel they don't need the bible to tell them how they feel with God. Maybe they just wish to love him in the best way they feel comfortable. Erm. Or maybe they just don't care, they just do it because they feel it right? Maybe something to think about.
They are what we call "Fluffy Bunny Wiccans" they don't read enough into Wicca itself to know what it is, and they just call themselves that because they want to do witchcraft in Christianity. it IS a religion, its actually recognized by the US government as a religion. They are wrong. Period.
Christians, How can you be a Christian Wicca?
