In Zoroastrianism, there will be a bridge on Judgment Day, whose width will vary according to the righteousness of the person. The bridge is wide if the person's good thoughts, words and deeds in life were many, or narrow if the person's good actions were few. Those souls that successfully cross the bridge are united with Ahura Mazda (God). The others fall into "darkness" and must await the final renovation of the world before they too may cross over into paradise.
This sounds like As-Sirat (the Path) in Islam, where the believers will cross the bridge on Judgment Day "within the twinkling of an eye, like lightning, like wind, like a bird, like the finest horses and camels. Some will escape and be safe, some will be lacerated and let go, and some will be pushed into the fire of Hell." (Sahih Muslim)
Zoroastrianism exists since the 6Th century BCE and Islam exists since the 7Th century.
Is Zoroastrianism right about Judgment Day, or is the Eadith fake and inspired by the religion? What are your thoughts?
@ Rumaitha:
You seriously jump to conclusions. Did I tell you my views on the subject? No. I am asking users what are their thoughts. You honestly need to stop judging people whom you know nothing about.
And I never mentioned the Qur'an. I was talking about a specific Eadith.
You didn't even answer the question. You were too busy questionning my intentions.
@ Rumaitha:
You still didn't answer the question. I didn't state my opinion on the subject, so stop making assumptions.
????? gave a great answer, where he/she argues that Zoroastrianism borrowed from Islam, since technically Islam isn't a new religion.
Many many ideas in Judaism, Christianity and Islam were borrowed from Zoroastrianism. If there were an anti plagiarism agency at their time, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, the disciples and Muhammad would have to serve almost all their life in prison.
Zoroastrianism was the first religion to introduce the ideas of heaven, hell, an invisible monotheistic creator, the devil and judgment day. I guess if you apply the same logic to these concepts, all your Quran is 'fake'.
First of all Eadith's are a secondary source in Islam and amongst them, some of them are corrupted or weak. What we know and agree is that we dint know exactly how the Day is going to be. We have some descriptions in Quran and those are of course the ones to believe.
Zoroastrianism yes is and older religion and so is Judaism, but it doesn't make it better religion, the concept of deity, of evil and good is totally different in Zoroastriniasm. Just a coincidence like the one u mention, doesn't make the Zoroastriniasm better as the coincidence of Jesus doesn't make Christianity better than islam.
U have to ask ur self: does Zoroastriniasm provide the human being with concepts and ruling for a social system as islam does? does Zoroastriniasm gives protection to women and orphans? does Zoroastrianism unite people from all over the world and races into one single community? Did Zoroastriniasm boost science as Islam did during the caliphates?
My guess is that the people who fabricated this Eadith were inspired by Zoroasrianism.
There is NO such thing mentioned in the Quran. All such things are in the Eadith, whose proponents were influenced by a variety of origins i.e. Jewish, Zoroastrians, Christianity etc.
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I forgot to add, that the Jews were influenced by Zoroastrians a lot. This happened during the first exile under Nebukednazzar (Or Bakht Nassar). His country had a dominant Zoroastrian influence. This is found in the TWO books (Unpublished) of Ezra. Where he narrates the story of RE-GENERATION of Torah.
The Jews had LOST the Torah during the first exile. When Ezra and Nehmiah returned and found that the priests were themselves great sinners. They preached loudly to bring the people back to the law. At that time, they were "Challenged" to bring the Torah. A critical reader should be able to read the fine print here. Both Ezra and Nehmiah on one side and the priests on the other side, did NOT have the Torah. Ezra went away to meet the challenge and THEN he brought the Torah. It is NOT mentioned how much time it took for Ezra and Nehmiah to bring the Torah. The two unpublished books of Ezra state that Ezra prayed and asked for help from God. And then in the night he saw an angel who gave him three cups of some fluid that looked like "Fire". Ezra drank the cups and then as if he remembered the whole Torah.
It is quite easy to pick out the INFLUENCE of Zoroastrians in the Jews of those times, from this story. No wonder that those who converted to Islam may have brought the same influence in Hadith.
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@Rumaitha
What do you mean by "Grey Area"? Which Area are you talking about ??
If you mean by code-19. I can simply NOT agree to you. To me no sane mind can deny it. I have verified some counts myself. I am a witness to it. And you can do it on your own in your own home.
All my senses and knowledge COMPLETELY rules out the possibility of a coincidence. It is a DEFINITE design. And a mind blowing design.
@Rumaitha
Oh I see what you mean by the "Grey Area".
For your information the Submitters believe everything in the Quran and thus also the Al-Airaf. It is mentioned in the Quran. Check out the translation of RK by the search of "Purgatory".
With regards to the code-19.
It is a sad state to see that you have failed to analyze and EVEN read through even the elementary details of code-19.
The code-19 , "FITS" perfectly well in the INDIVIDUAL INITIALED surahs of Quran. The 9th Surah is NOT an INITIALED surah. Even if we do NOT take into account the two verses part, EVEN Then it is a sign and miracle of ENORMOUS dimensions.
The whole thing is that the same thing points out other things and one of them is the TWO verses. So don't fool yourself with the satisfaction that the two verses were rejected ONLY to fit the theory. The THEORY is STILL perfect in the INDIVIDUAL initialed Surahs. Which itself is a great miracle.
Hadeeth that exist in Saheeh Bukharee and Saheeh Muslim are not fake.
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Zoroastrianism exist in 6Th Century,Islaam did exist before Zoroastrianism.
Most of Zoroaster's teachings were borrowed from Islaam.
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Islaam is the religion which was given to Adam(pub), the first man and the first prophet of Allaah Set, and it was the religion of all the prophets(pbut) sent by Allaah to mankind.
The religion of Islaam is not named after a person as in the case of Christianity which was named after Jesus Christ, Buddhism after Gotama Buddha, Confucianism after Confucius, and Marxism after Karl Marx , Zoroastrianism after Zoroaster etc....Nor was it named after a tribe like Judaism after the tribe of Judah and Hinduism after the Hindus.
Islaam was not a new religion brought by Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) in Arabia in the seventh century, but only the true religion of Allaah re-expressed in its final form.
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Know that Allaah doesn't revealed religion called Christianity or Judaism,this is a name given by its own followers , Allaah is Merciful that,He have no objection against them.He says in the Qur'aan(Interpretation of the Meaning ) :-
?Surely, those who believe, those who are the Jews and the Sabians and the Christians ? whosoever believed in Allaah and the Last Day, and worked righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.? [al-Maa?idah 5:69]
This verse declares that , Allaah has no objection against those who called themselves Christians,[Sabians] or Jews.
Commenting on the aayah in Soorat al-Baqarah, Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
?What is meant is that every group believed in Allaah and the Last Day, which is the appointed Day of Reckoning, and did righteous deeds. But after Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was sent to both mankind and the jinn, true belief can only be in accordance with the way of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Whoever follows his way will not fear the future or grieve for what they leave behind.
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The name Jews and Christians was used during the time of 'Eesa (peace be upon him).
Jews were those who followed Moosa (peace be upon him) and referred to the Tawraat for judgment at that time.
When Allaah sent ?Eesa (peace be upon him), the Children of Israel were obliged to follow him and obey him, and so they and others who followed him called themselves Christians.. while those that did not follow 'Eesa(a.s) but Moosa(a.s) called themselves Jews...
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Hadith is absolutely right. This fact is not with ardent of Islam. It is since Adam so any religion saying same what prophet said, it means that religion has some pieces of Islam.
well i personally dint take this scenario in the literal sense. I look at the teaching as philosophical anecdotes constructed to better understand the afterlife and the difference b/w good and bad.
Then again, Allah did say he sent other prophets to other nations so it shouldn't be a surprise it their teachings coincides with ours. I believe many Zoroastrians converted to Islam and some didn't. It can also be possible that they were the once who were influenced by the teachings and later incorporated that in their teachings...
Is Zoroastrianism right or is the hadith wrong?
